Talk:Zanaffar armor

Uhm... Do we really need this as a separate article...? Most of the information here should belong or is already present in the Zanaffar and Zenaffa armor articles. This one seems a bit redundant. --Pip25 21:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree that most of the information is present elsewhere, but the Zanaffar armor is a distinct object. It doesn't have the same properties as the Zenaffa armor or the fully mature Zanaffar. (There were also a lot of redlinks leading to it, which is why I created the article). If you want to redirect the "Zanaffar armor" links, I'd recommend doing it to Zanaffar rather than Zenaffa armor, as Zanaffar is usually more relevant to the subject. --Oyashiro08 21:12, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Zanaffar armor is not really a distinct object. Check out the properties of the Zenaffa armor on QP/Diana's site; Zanaffar armor is the Zenaffa armor, just unstable, which leads to it eventually becoming Zanaffar. It is probably called Zanaffar armor because most people are only aware of its dangerous nature, and not of its real origins. --Pip25 21:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There seem to be some major differences between the Zenaffa armor and the Zanaffar armor. For example, the Zenaffa armor can remove itself in order to fight alongside the wearer, or temporarily lower its astral-blocking seal so the wearer can cast a spell. The Zanaffar armor never shows any of these abilities. My opinion is that, being flawed and imperfect, the Zanaffar armor is different enough from the Zenaffa armor to warrant a separate article. --Oyashiro08 21:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, the Zanaffar Armor is a flawed and imperfect Zenaffa Armor, but is that really that much of a difference? You have to take it into account that all Zanaffar Armors were worn by people (or, well, mostly Duclis :) )who generally had little knowledge on how to use them. The fact that some abilities of the Zenaffa Armor weren't demonstrated by the Zanaffar Armor does not mean that the latter lacks them. --Pip25 22:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll admit that Duclis, Grouj, and Gioconda were probably unaware of the armor's true capabilities. My main reasons for wanting the article are that (1) I want to establish the difference between the stable, useful Zenaffa Armor and the dangerous, destructive Zanaffar Armor; and (2) I want to establish the difference between the armor-plating Zanaffar and the full-grown-monster Zanaffar. --Oyashiro08 01:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay then, just let me edit out the things from the article that are obviously redundant. --Pip25 09:45, 17 January 2009 (UTC)